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-Good morning. It's a pleasure.
-I've never interviewed a spy.
-Well, never say never again.
-Is a normal interview or this never had happened.
-This interview is for your eyes only.
-When we talk about spies we think in American, English or Russian agents but you're...
-I'm not going to answer...
-Are you scared with your work?
-No, I'm not. Risk exists everywhere and my work is only a work. It's true that you have license to kill but nowadays the spies are intelligent computers and you must control and analyse the information that they offer.
-How's life living in a border?
-It's interesting because you receive lots of influences and diversity is something that offers you the possibility of having different points of view and this is something very important in our global world.
-How is the life of a spy?
-A normal life. You must be cautious, you mustn't speak a lot and it's important that nobody remembers you. You must be like a spectre.
-And the personal life? It must be difficult...
-Well, only a person who works in this can really understand you but you must choose between having a personal or professional life. The spy who loved me had to choose it. It's not an easy election.
-Which is your favourite spy?
-She is Mata Hari, of course. She was a Dutch exotic dancer and courtesan who was convicted of being a spy for Germany during World War I and executed by firing squad in France. She is a legend in my profession that demonstrated that diamonds are forever.
-And your worst enemy?
-Lots of enemies: Dr.No, Goldfinger, Thunderball, Octopussy, The man with the Golden Gun, GoldenEye... but if I had to choose one, Jaws. Without any kind of doubt. I was working in a mission named Moonraker. I knew Jaws a terrible highly skilled killed with an incredible strength. His name was in tribute to sharks. It seems that he liked shark, the animal which lives in oceans and eat fish, seals, crabs and seabirds. They find their prey with their sense of smell and they are in danger of extinction. Jaws had all these characteristics. He was very dangerous and caught him required an enormous effort.
-Have you got any secret gadget?
-A relaxing Earth ball.
-How do you feel being a member of The Grangers family?
-Very well. The Grangers are a very funny family. They respect my job and they don't ask me anything. I like them because they live and let die. For us, the family is the most important. It's the jewel of our crown and our majesty.
-How is a normal day with The Grangers?
-We haven't got a normal day because we haven't got a planning. We have an idea about our obligations but we can change all things in a second. All depends of us and this is something very interesting because offers you the possibility of being creative and non-static. You cannot control tomorrow, and then you realize that tomorrow never dies.
-How long have you been studying English?
-In my work, knowing languages is very important.
-What can you explain about your life with The Grangers?
-When you have this kind of work, you need people who understand you and give you the opportunity of having your personal moments. They know that I can't explain as things as I know and they respect this, and this fact is very important because I feel comfortable with them.
-Which is your best memory with the family?
-The day that they brought me a new car.
-You like reading, don't you? Recommend me a book...
-I'm reading about computer development. I like it and it's a necessary skill if you want to be a professional spy. You must know about computers because nowadays technology is more powerful than standard weapons. Technology is a weapon in it. You can control whatever you want if you're able to hacker the system. A mobile phone is more powerful than a gun. Believe me or not but it's true.
-You're a spy. Can you write a slogan for The Grangers?
-Die another day because you only live twice.
-Which is yout favourite place to disappear?
-Machu Picchu in Cuzco.
-One last question... is Rubén Granger your real name?
-I'm a Granger. I'm Rubén Granger.
-Thank you very much, Rubén Granger.
-You're welcome.
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